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i have a friend in a famous clan in asia, and he helps me out with strats against races and the new types of strats asian progamers use (trend? lol)
well for 2day ill write 4 types of strats and i bet some of you use this and most of u use 1 of these, but im going to specify it so that u know the basics. And its not that hard to follow i think.. and ill post more later. Remember these are strats against Ghoul UD users.
Of course all strats depend on what the opponent's race is and what type of map it is (whether it is a small map or a big map, has narrow paths or wide, has hills, etc..) and also the types of units the enemy pumps out. And i hope you guys do know (for the noobs) that if you fight on a ramp, hill(?) and you are on the bottom of the hill, your units will keep getting misses. So try to stay on the top (just a tip of the day lol)
Anways..
BM 2AOW Hunts (against ghouls)
In most maps everyone can use 2 AOW hunts mostly beastmaster. Warden requires a lot of micro and you tend to get it killed easily so i suggest bm for noobs. The thing about BM 2AOW hunts is that you must try to lvl up your bm as fast as possible to lvl3. When you are about lvl3 (about 2 and a half) go creep at an expansion, and when you're done creeping expand right there. One important thing about exanding in WC is... when you expand.. ATTACK THE ENEMY. The reason to this is while you expand.. you need to make time for the exp. to finish, keeping it safe from the enemy. Go harrass. Koreans call this the "lvl3 harrass(well in korean)". You should be lvl 3 somewhere at the time of night time. This is when you gather up all your units and go harrass. You should go to the enemy's base and usually, at this time the UD guy starts to build statues or the building is almost done being built. Try to destroy the building but dont lose your hunts of course. If he TPs, run out of his base, if you can out of the blight (lure him). The most important part here is.... when you fight this guy, you have to kill about 5-7 ghouls in his army while keeping your exansion safe. If you dont lessen the amount of ghouls in the game of your enemy, trust me... unless ur going against a noob or something, once your enemy upgrades to frenzy, you are out of luck. To win against UD(at a normal basis) this way u need to have at least a 5/8 ratio. This means.. for example.. if your ud opponent has about 50 food, u need to have around 80 food or 75, around there. Some ppl who read this will probably think "ive beaten ppl without that much or i didnt need to harrass." Well you're wrong. If you play against the best, it is essential. Of course strats change as your UD player might get different units in the middle such as change to gargolyes. Just scout a lot. When your bm is lvl2 send your hawk to the UD base to see if he has 2 crypts and he didnt upgrade to black citadel immediately. This is a high percentage (95%) that he is going gargolyes (LOOK FOR THE 2nd CRYPT!!) Well, i wont write anymore about against diff units, since im just going to talk bout ghouls -_-; just telling u to change ur strat as the game flows.
Depending on the map the timing might change so just keep playing and ull get the hang of it.
Another
(against ghouls)
DH or BM 2 Lore Dryads (no bears)
This is what Freedom.WeRRa used against Gz.Dead in a practice game (i was observing ) This is usually done in Turtle Rock (since all them koreans have almost all their practice games on this map) Well first off, get a hero, either DH or BM but if your not sure with micro.. get BM. The reason y noobs should get BM is because in asia, good UD players started their trend of tower rushing in Turtle Rock early in the game. If you have quilbeasts it is easier to block. In the beginning if your bm, creep the small turtles in the front, then go directly to the enemy (remember to build 1 AOW, not to build units..) The reason y u are harrassing in the beginning is to buy time for this building to finish. Keep building wisps put them on wood. I will tell u the reason for the AOW soon. When you have 20 food, tech to tree of ages and when u have 100 wood build a hunt's hall immediately. Ok, the reason for the AOW is because these days UD tower rushes too. If they see that you dont have anything in ur base, theyll just tower rush and ur GG. The reason y u build this is so that if they do tower rush, you could defend urself by building Glaive Throwers. At night go to the Shop and buy boots. When the upgrade for your tree is finished, get the naga at the tavern and give her the boots (naga tends to get surrounded easily, novad, etc.) Quickly and build 2 lores. Remember this build requires a lot of wood, so try as hard as you can so that you dont lose any wisps esp. to the enemy. Now keep pumping dryads. Remember to harrass while u do this so you could attack when you have about 6 dryads. You might think im wrong but dryads are very strong against ghouls but of course you need to micro. In Ghouls vs Dryads, dryads will win if you micro them right since the undead 3 hero combo doesnt work on magic immune units. Just keep killing 1 ghoul at a time. Remember to aim not just attack randomly. If the enemy changes his strat remember like i said before, go with the flow or you make him follow your flow. Remember to check for exp. and always think!! while you play.
The 3rd strat is..
All you know the famous 2 lore bear and dryad build.
The good thing about this build is that, you harass a little in the beginning like the dryad strat above, and later you don’t need to harass once you have a small amount of units. Just creep!! Lol.. This building order is similar to the one on top, just that you get bears too after about 3-4 dryads. Remember the most important part of this strat is to not lose your bears at any cost. Get the staff of preservation when u can, and if you can have both ur heroes have one.
Oh and anything about this build is there r different hero combos for this build. Just choose one that you think will match you and is easier for you.
BM + Panda
DH + BM + Panda (3 hero type) requires some micro or I should say a lot…? Lol..
DH + Naga
And there can be more that I don’t know of. Lol use ur heads~
Oh and remember…. NEVER use this build on Turtle Rock and NEVER do this on a non-tavern map. You need to have a tavern hero in order for this build to work.
And also, you need to scout and see what the enemy is getting later in the game.
If he’s getting meat wagons, get more of bears.
If he’s going ghouls, get a little bit more of dryads.
If he’s going gargs, just get hella lot of dryads and lvl up your quill beast skill.
If u don’t lose many units in the beginning or wisp, etc… you will probably win.. (that is… if you micro right).
The last but not least (the hardest of all of them I think):
(usually against ghouls or gargoyles)
Hippos and Chimaeras
Now.. this build is very hard to do, unless ur going against a noob -_-a;
You have to constantly harass for this strat to work since u need to buy time for yourself to tech up your tree of life as fast as you can. There are many versions of this strat but I say for you to NOT use it on small close maps such as turtle rock or two rivers AND a non-tavern map. Use this on a map like gnoll wood. This strat was first introduced by Spirit_Moon and ive seen some ppl use this strat often.
The 2-3 variations of this strat:
Warden + Panda No AOW straight tech to tier3 (but you gotta watch if the enemy is right next to u, and if he is, build an ancient of war and wut I told you before like in the dryad build.) usually this build is 2 wind and 1 chimaera roost. You have to constantly harass, I mean… CONSTANTLY. Make sure the UD player doesn’t get any close to your base and sees that your doing this. You have to double play it with ur warden and panda, warden running around in one place and ur panda running around in the other distracting your enemy.
BM + archers First you scout your surroundings. Pick a starting point (red creep area) and creep there in the beginning of the game. You could do this with just a bm and about 4-5 archers. Remember to micro! How you do this is get a quill beast and wait for your cool down. Then summon another one. When you have 2 of them the 4-5 archers, start creeping that area and once your finish build a tree of life in the place. Build a hunts hall if you want some hunts (if your not quite sure about ur micro) or just tech to tree of ages. This is to get a lot of money so you could build 2 wind 2 chimaera roosts. You need to creep a lot since gnoll wood is a pretty good map for ur bm to creep and lvl up supa fast.
(If it becomes a hippos vs garg battle, u must! get the panda and in case stock up in 1 healing or protection scroll or even both.
Remember to upgrade both weapon and armor because it is essential for this build!!!
As i kept repeating bfore.... flow with the game, dont just go by what i told you cuz you might end of losing if you dont react to the enemy or change your strat in the middle of it if it doesnt work.
This is all im writing for 2day lol… I think I wrote too much =/ well.. if you have any questions ask me / GJ- |
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